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      What do native speakers of English mean by"Dead man has no friends"?

      While guiding my students from senior grade one, I saw this sentence in the text book. And I had some difficulty in rephrasing it in English. It would be kind of you to give me a hand. Thanks a lot.


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      cmftrier
      Submitted on 1 October, 2009 - 05:27

      I would guess that it means 'A dead man doesn't have any friends'. I don't think there's any kind of hidden meaning, at least none that I can fathom, but it may be a proverb of some kind. It would be good if you could tell us exactly where (in what kind of text) you found the sentence. My guess is that it's a newspaper headline or something similar, and that's why the article has been left out. For more info on this kind of 'newspaper (headline) language', you can look in Swan's "Practical English Usage".

      CMF

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      JASKARAN SINGH
      Submitted on 3 October, 2009 - 12:46

      What do we mean by "Nobody kicks a dead dog"? It means a passive person has no enemies only active persons invite criticism. Similarly, 'a dead person' means a passive person or a person who has lost his relevance in certain organisation or area. Nobody likes to have any association with such person.

       

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      Rajendra Vottery
      Submitted on 4 October, 2009 - 04:39

      I'm a non-native speaker of English and have been teaching English for some time . I've had problems with proverbs/sayings too, from time to time; the problem gets  knotier, however, in the absence of a trail.

      I tend to agree with Mr Singh. Some people - and there are numeous of those - continue to live in the hearts and minds of their surviving generations much after their passing on.

      Alternatively - and this is a wild guess - the saying could refer to the summary disposal (burial/cremation) of the dead by their near and dears .

      I sincerely hope someone will give us the authentic explanation soon.

       

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      cmftrier
      Submitted on 4 October, 2009 - 07:00

      Hey cool!
      Thanks for explaining that! I'd never heard of it!!

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      jackradford
      Submitted on 4 October, 2009 - 08:20
      In the Dictionary of Proverbs by George Latimer Apperson and M. Manser, different versions of the phrase can be traced back centuries. The following is the final verse of a Ballad written by Sir Charles Sedly in 1778 (the full text can be read by searching google books).

      Ye Gallants all, take heed how

      you Come to untimely Ends;

      Justice has bid the World adieu,

      And dead Men have no Friends.

       

      The ballad is fun and worth reading, warning about the dangers of getting drunk with strangers.  

      I think the phrase is a warning to those who risk their lives bravely.

      Google books is a great place to search for the meaning of odd phrases.