Dear all,

      It's been really nice to be part of this group. Many thanks for all the contributions and ideas :)

      I'd like to start a new discussion topic. Do you teach kids aged 8 - 11 years old? Actually, young learners are usually quite noisy, kinaesthetic, demanding and extremely “full of beans”, aren't they? Which techniques/ideas do you use to better manage and deal with this age group?

      Looking forward to reading your ideas.

      Karla


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      Fernando Guarany's picture
      Fernando Guarany
      Submitted on 13 March, 2010 - 05:23

      Hi Karla,

      Great idea starting a thread on Teaching Children. Well done!

      I love children, but, admittedly I prefer playing with them rather than teaching them. =) In other words, I'm not a specialist at teaching young learners, even though I have some experience with this age group. Here are some hopefully useful ideas collected over the years (without any theoretical references, I'm afraid):

       

      Lesson Planning - Be spontaneous. Improvise and Adapt!

      I'd risk saying that the lesson plan for a younger learners' class will be more effective if teachers leave plenty of leeway for improvisation and adaptation. Anyone who's ever taught children will remember how quickly they can turn your detailedly timed lesson plan upside down. So, by cutting down some on their lesson plans, teachers will be in a better position to think on their feet if (when?) the class starts following an unexpected route. Perhaps one of the key words here would be spontaneity.

       

      Speak only English in class.

      A common attitude of teachers is believing that if they speak only English in class, the (young) learners will not be able to understand them. In my experience, that couldn't be further from the truth. Children are capable of developing amazing communication strategies and, in general, are very fast learners. The more teachers address their students in the L2, the more encouraged (and used) they will get to speaking the target language.

       

      Settlers and Stirrers

      As you mentioned in your introduction to the topic, children are indeed "full of beans". And when this energy is properly harnessed, the lesson flows harmoniously. Using a variety of settling and stirring activities possibly increases the level of engagement and increases the chances that input will become intake. In practical terms, I usually try and engage young(er) learners with an action song, a mingle or an action game right at the beginning of the lesson. Having released some of their energy, I follow up with a settler, which could be, for instance, a storytelling session with questions and answers or some kind of task with modelling clay or colouring pencils.

       

      Classroom Management - Practise What you Preach

      It's been said that a good start saves a lot of time. . . and pain! That's especially true when dealing with young learners. A clearly established class contract (or constitution) may well be the best thing to agree on with the kids on day one. So, whenever a rule is broken (by the learners or the teacher), the group will have a written document to refer to and put things back on track. The modern maxim "practise what you preach" completely comes to life here. Children (much more strongly than adults) do expect teachers to keep their word: it's self-defeating to demand something of your students that you yourself won't comply with. So, if you tell students not to use the L1 in class, don't do it yourself either.

       

      Before closing, here are a few pieces of advice I like giving myself:

       

      • Teachers do NOT teach a class, they teach individuals. . . one by one.
      • Children are not empty vessels to simply be filled with information. They have a lot to share about themselves, their lives, families, etc.
      • Let them share, let them talk, let them express themselves. And listen to them!
      • Learning opportunities abound in freedom-filled, creativity-driven classes. Seize them!
      • Young learners can easily tell the difference between the mediocre, the good, the superior and the great teacher: "The mediocre teacher tells. The good teacher explains. The superior teacher demonstrates. The great teacher inspires." (William Ward)

       

      To conclude, let me just record that these are just some ideas I can remember off the top of my head. I don't claim authorship and would be thankful to anyone who could indicate any references and sources.

       

      Cheers,

      Fernando Guarany

      Natal RN Brazil

       

       

       

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      Crespus
      Submitted on 13 March, 2010 - 07:31

      Hi Karla!

      Very good thread! As you know, I don't teach kids. I remember we talked about it last year and to be honest I don't think I'm prepared to teach them, yet. Actually, I love teaching adults but I also love new experiences!

      BrunoCesar's picture
      BrunoCesar
      Submitted on 13 March, 2010 - 21:08

      Hello Karla, Fernando , Crespus and all ,

      Firstly, I’d like to thank Karla for bringing such an interesting topic to the fore. I’d also like to congratulate Fernando and Crespus on keeping the ball rolling. ;-)

      I myself have mostly been teaching young learners for the last four years. I’m a middle/junior high  public sector teacher, and like Fernando, I admit that sometimes I’m much more inclined to play and talk to my students rather than teach them. Young learners are fascinating, a bundle of energy and the owners of brilliant and enquiring minds.

      I wholeheartedly agree with the ideas shared by Fernando and I’d like to add a few more of my own based on my own experience. As you may already know, very few public schools have English course books; therefore, I have to constantly photocopy anything I find that may be interesting or useful for the classes I teach (16 classes and in each of them I have somewhere under 40 students):

      •  Young students love to talk/write about themselves. Teach them vocabulary, prefabricated sentences, anything related to their daily life irrespective of their current knowledge of the language – whether they’re beginners or not.
      •  Engage young learners in small projects/tasks in which the use of technology is involved such as setting up a blog for school or visiting  video chat rooms – where they’ll have an opportunity to practice what they’ve learned in class. Young learners love technology and quickly figure out how to use the newest tools available on the Web.
      • And, finally, I have learned that we teachers should always point out to our students that although we’re friendly, we’re not their “mates”. We may be open-minded, but we have to set limits. We may negotiate everything that is done in the classroom, but that doesn’t mean we have lost authority. Like doctors, and any other professionals, we know what we do in our classes. We have long studied to become teachers - and some of us are still engaged in this never-ending (learning) process.

      As to an English-only class, I wonder if there are any public sector teachers out there who can teach a 50 min class speaking only English. I’d love to hear your comments and suggestions on that because I myself can’t do it.  Looking forward to reading your comments,

      BC

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      Fernando Guarany
      Submitted on 15 March, 2010 - 02:51

      Hi, Bruno and all,

      Congratulations on your thorough comment, Bruno. Nice to hear you have hands-on experience with young learners and, what's more, are willing to share it. I understand that teaching English in Public Sector schools with very limited resources is not exactly a walk in the park. However, because of some committed pureblood teachers like yourself, it's still possible to make a difference in education.

      I think you're spot on in mentioning technology. It can potentially offer a considerally high level of engagement for young learners. However, most public sector schools in my state cannot afford to even have a cd-player in their classrooms or a functional ICT lab. Of course, teachers could find a way out by assigning techy homework which sts would then do from their homes or "lan-houses." What is the scenario like in this respect in your area?

      Concerning your closing question (re English only), I wonder what it is that prevents you from teaching a 50-min lesson speaking only English. Could you give us more details on the issue?

      Have a great week!

      Fernando Guarany

      Natal RN Brazil

       

       

       

      karlavitalino's picture
      karlavitalino
      Submitted on 16 March, 2010 - 01:32

      Dear all,

      Many thanks for your replies. It seems that both Fernando and Bruno have already had some experience with this age group as well. You should definitely give it a try, Ivan!

      I’ve been teaching kids aged 8 – 11 for quite a long time and I can honestly say that although it’s been really demanding, I’m really into teaching them, they are absolutely fascinating!

      Young learners are like sponges

      You’re absolutely right, Fernando! Young learners are like sponges, they soak up everything we say and how we say it. Thus clear and correct pronunciation is of vital importance, since young learners repeat exactly what they hear. With the help of mixed activities, such as chants, songs, poems and rhymes students’ speaking abilities grow, their pronunciation gets better and their awareness of the language improves. Using songs, poems, rhymes and chants is a wonderful way of making students sing/talk and at the same time (unconsciously) work at their grammar, vocabulary, pronunciation.

      Striking a balance

      From my experience, we better manage and deal with kids if we strike a balance and alternate silent moments (copying, listening, reading, writing) and noisy/kinaesthetic  ones (games, miming, songs, chants etc).

      Contract / Limits

      You’re right, Fernando, “a clearly established class contract (or constitution) may well be the best thing to agree on with the kids on day one”, especially if they prepare the ‘rules’ by themselves. I’m also inclined to agree with Bruno in relation to setting limits. ‘We may negotiate everything that is done in the classroom, but that doesn’t mean we have lost authority. Like doctors, and any other professionals, we know what we do in our classes.”

      Thus, I'm not so sure if I agree with you, Fernando, when you say that “the lesson plan for a younger learners' class will be more effective if teachers leave plenty of leeway for improvisation and adaptation”. Although I agree we should be flexible and adapt according to needs, I believe we should always have a carefully prepared lesson plan.  After all, we all have a syllabus and a timetable to follow, don’t we? Maybe, if we consider very young learners, we would have far more room for spontainety, improvisation and adaptation… I might be wrong. So, what do you all think about this issue?

      Best wishes,

      Karla

      PS: I'm a bit short of time right now but I'll be back soon to make some comments on the use of English in class and the use of technology.

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      BrunoCesar
      Submitted on 17 April, 2010 - 20:57

      Hi everyone,

      Sorry for my late response with regard to teaching in a public (Am)/state (British) school. Digressing for a moment, and just to add a little background info here … before teaching in public schools I had taught English for nearly 5 years in private language institutions. However, teaching in the public sector is a completely different experience to which I had to adapt and have long done research on how to best approach to it.  

       To me, the problem lies in the teachers’ mindset - their principles, assumptions and beliefs on how a foreign language should be taught.  Most Brazilian teachers of English, for instance, strongly believe that learners must speak English from the very first day of class – I agree to a certain extent, but we should take our learners’ (socio-cultural) reality, our working environment (external/internal factors) into account before drawing up a teaching program similar to the ones we have in a language school such as Cultura Inglesa.

      I’d very much like to make it clear that I’m not advocating that public school students are not capable of learning the basics of English. They actually can!! They can do it brilliantly/beautifully. However, the teaching of English in a class of 40-50 students, in my view, should not be taught the same way as we do in a class of 15-20 students in a private language school. Needless to say that there are many other (internal/external) factors that influence the dynamics of the learning-teaching process in a public school language classroom. I could name a few but there are so many…  Instead, I’d like to invite those who have never taught (or been) in a public school (especially the ones in Rio de Janeiro) to go visit one and spend some time with the teachers there, do some peer teaching or even write about their experience while there. I'm sure it will be an amazing , unique and fruitful experience.

      Sadly, what I  (over)hear is that public school teachers need to be helped, that their language skills should be improved and therefore they should be blamed for their students’ inability to speak English. Is the problem really down to it?? I think that there’s a lot more to it that should be investigated.  Does that make any sense ? I wonder what you guys think about it.

      Before closing it, here's some food for thought:

      •  If speaking (writing/listening to/ reading) only the target language in class is the key to mastering it, why then do so many teachers of Portuguese complain about their students' weak performance in their own native language? Why do so many students fail the Prova Brasil?

      Have a nice weekend,

      Bruno Cesar

       

      Ivone Dezaneti's picture
      Ivone Dezaneti
      Submitted on 16 April, 2010 - 17:05

      Hi Karla,

      I thought you would like to know that the LearnEnglish Kids will be moving this month to a new site and it looks great!

      Please share with other teachers that you think is appropriate.

      Cheers,

      Ivone

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      Graeme
      Submitted on 4 May, 2010 - 12:07

      If you teach young learners – primary school children aged 7-11, we would like you to contribute a few minutes of your time to this project.

       

      Please complete the on-line questionnaire about your work by 15 May 2010:

       

      www.surveymonkey.com/s/TEYL

       

      The questionnaire should only take about 20 minutes to complete. Your answers are completely confidential and will be used only as summaries in which no individual’s answer can be identified.

       

      Please pass on this information to all your colleagues who teach English to 7-11 year olds.

       

      “Investigating Global Practices in Teaching English to Young Learners” is a research project supported by the British Council ELT Research Award Scheme. We are interested in finding out about primary school teachers’ experiences of teaching English, the activities they use and the challenges they face. The project is being run by Dr Sue Garton and Dr Fiona Copland from the School of Languages and Social Sciences, Aston University and Professor Anne Burns from the Department of Linguistics, Macquarie University, Sydney. Results from the project will be used to help us to better understand primary school teaching around the world. We will publish our findings with The British Council so that primary school teachers can learn about each other and to discover how solutions to teaching problems developed in one context may be effective in another.

      You can find more information about the project at  http://www1.aston.ac.uk/lss/news-events/news/news-2010/march/young-learners/

      karlavitalino's picture
      karlavitalino
      Submitted on 19 July, 2010 - 12:27

      Dear all,

      I've just come back from ABCI Conference in Rio! Awesome one, by the way!

      I presented a talk there about teaching pre-teens (8-11 year olds) based on a project we've been developing in our institution (Cultura Inglesa São João del Rei). This project started from the realization that although today's kids are 'digital natives', they do have specific emotional and physical needs we should take into account when preparing their lessons. The IWB is such a wonderful tool that we tend to make our lessons too e-board centred! We also believe that establishing ROUTINE is of paramount importance! Routine is good for the teacher and for the learner.

      I attended several talks/workshops and I was pleased to notice that many people agree with the ideas above.

      What about you?

      1- Do you also agree that our lessons are too e-board centred?

      2- What do you do to cater for kids' emotional and physical needs?

      3- Do you have any procedures/routine you follow in your lessons? e.g. I start my lesson with a song "Good morning (3x) How are you? I'm fine (3x) Thank you!" Then I elicit the date/weather from SS and we copy it down.

      Looking forward to hearing from you all

      Karla

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      Graeme
      Submitted on 26 July, 2010 - 14:15

      Hi Karla!

      Wasn't ABCI great? I went from Rio straight to SP for www.braztesol.org.br and then on to Londrina for another local ELT event.

      To answer your questions above...

      1) I have heard many teachers who rely on the e-board (IWB) confess that they would be LOST if there were a power cut during their class! This is rather worrying as teachers should always feel comfortable in the classroom, doing their job, with or without a given set of tools. Many teachers around the world have next to no resources available, of course. Some teachers have told me they always prepare a plan B, with non-resource-dependent activities they can use in the event of a catastrophe!!!

      2) Emotional (or affective) engagement should be central to all the activities chosen, and none should last for much longer than about 5-10 minutes, otherwise attention rapidly wavers! One way to re-energise the class is to ensure there are plenty of kinesthetic activities, involving movement of some kind. The best way to give your students what they really need/want is to get to know them well. There are downloadable tests of learning style (as well as multiple intelligences) freely available from the internet, and adapted to each age-group, including YL!

      3) It's true that kids need and like SOME routine... but we should always try and offer something new and exciting too... it would be a shame if anything we did in class became an unengaging and automatic (robot-like) response just to please the teacher. Maybe a repertoire of songs could be developed, so kids are at least familiar with the words/melody, but will never know exactly which song they might be called-upon to sing, thus maintaning the element of surprise!

      Finally, don't forget to visit http://learnenglishkids.britishcouncil.org for lots of fun ideas!

      Bye for now,

      G.